Do Church Numbers Matter?

Tuesday, May 5, 2026

What does it actually mean for a church to be successful? Host Brian Fromm draws on years of pastoral experience to push back on the idea that attendance numbers are the ultimate measure of a church's health — and offers a more honest framework for what thriving congregations actually look like. Plus: three practical encouragements for Christians walking through a hard season, a look at how to worship God when he feels distant, and the remarkable true story of a BYU offensive lineman who turned down a $1.5 million NFL contract to become a $22,000-a-year math teacher — all because of his convictions. Brian also reflects on the Savannah Bananas' origin story, what it means to take a real risk on something you believe in, and why joy in God was never meant to be a solo experience.

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